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Tuesday, December 30, 2014

Did The Saudis And The US Collude In Dropping Oil Prices? – Analysis - By OilPrice.com

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Did The Saudis And The US Collude In Dropping Oil Prices? – Analysis


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By Andrew Topf

The oil price drop that has dominated the headlines in recent weeks has been framed almost exclusively in terms of oil market economics, with most media outlets blaming Saudi Arabia, through its OPEC Trojan horse, for driving down the price, thus causing serious damage to the world’s major oil exporters – most notably Russia.
While the market explanation is partially true, it is simplistic, and fails to address key geopolitical pressure points in the Middle East.

Oilprice.com looked beyond the headlines for the reason behind the oil price drop, and found that the explanation, while difficult to prove, may revolve around control of oil and gas in the Middle East and the weakening of Russia, Iran and Syria by flooding the market with cheap oil.

 

The oil weapon

We don’t have to look too far back in history to see Saudi Arabia, the world’s largest oil exporter and producer, using the oil price to achieve its foreign policy objectives. In 1973, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat convinced Saudi King Faisal to cut production and raise prices, then to go as far as embargoing oil exports, all with the goal of punishing the United States for supporting Israel against the Arab states. It worked. The “oil price shock” quadrupled prices.

It happened again in 1986, when Saudi Arabia-led OPEC allowed prices to drop precipitously, and then in 1990, when the Saudis sent prices plummeting as a way of taking out Russia, which was seen as a threat to their oil supremacy. In 1998, they succeeded. When the oil price was halved from $25 to $12, Russia defaulted on its debt.
The Saudis and other OPEC members have, of course, used the oil price for the obverse effect, that is, suppressing production to keep prices artificially high and member states swimming in “petrodollars”. In 2008, oil peaked at $147 a barrel.

Turning to the current price drop, the Saudis and OPEC have a vested interest in taking out higher-cost competitors, such as US shale oil producers, who will certainly be hurt by the lower price. Even before the price drop, the Saudis were selling their oil to China at a discount. OPEC’s refusal on Nov. 27 to cut production seemed like the baldest evidence yet that the oil price drop was really an oil price war between Saudi Arabia and the US.
However, analysis shows the reasoning is complex, and may go beyond simply taking down the price to gain back lost marketshare.

“What is the reason for the United States and some U.S. allies wanting to drive down the price of oil?” Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro asked rhetorically in October. “To harm Russia.”

Many believe the oil price plunge is the result of deliberate and well-planned collusion on the part of the United States and Saudi Arabia to punish Russia and Iran for supporting the murderous Assad regime in Syria.

 

Punishing Assad and friends

Proponents of this theory point to a Sept. 11 meeting between US Secretary of State John Kerry and Saudi King Abdullah at his palace on the Red Sea. According to an article in the Wall Street Journal, it was during that meeting that a deal was hammered out between Kerry and Abdullah. In it, the Saudis would support Syrian airstrikes against Islamic State (ISIS), in exchange for Washington backing the Saudis in toppling Assad.

If in fact a deal was struck, it would make sense, considering the long-simmering rivalry between Saudi Arabia and its chief rival in the region: Iran. By opposing Syria, Abdullah grabs the opportunity to strike a blow against Iran, which he sees as a powerful regional rival due to its nuclear ambitions, its support for militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah, and its alliance with Syria, which it provides with weapons and funding. The two nations are also divided by religion, with the majority of Saudis following the Sunni version of Islam, and most Iranians considering themselves Shi’ites.

“The conflict is now a full-blown proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia, which is playing out across the region,” Reuters reported on Dec. 15. “Both sides increasingly see their rivalry as a winner-take-all conflict: if the Shi’ite Hezbollah gains an upper hand in Lebanon, then the Sunnis of Lebanon—and by extension, their Saudi patrons—lose a round to Iran. If a Shi’ite-led government solidifies its control of Iraq, then Iran will have won another round.”

The Saudis know the Iranians are vulnerable on the oil price. Experts say the country needs $140 a barrel oil to balance its budget; at sub-$60 prices, the Saudis succeed in pressuring Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamanei, possibly containing its nuclear ambitions and making the country more pliable to the West, which has the power to reduce or lift sanctions if Iran cooperates.

Adding credence to this theory, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani told a Cabinet meeting earlier this month that the fall in oil prices was “politically motivated” and a “conspiracy against the interests of the region, the Muslim people and the Muslim world.”

 

Pipeline conspiracy

Some commentators have offered a more conspiratorial theory for the Saudis wanting to get rid of Assad. They point to a 2011 agreement between Syria, Iran and Iraq that would see a pipeline running from the Iranian Port Assalouyeh to Damascus via Iraq. The $10-billion project would take three years to complete and would be fed gas from the South Pars gas field, which Iran shares with Qatar. Iranian officials have said they plan to extend the pipeline to the Mediterranean to supply gas to Europe – in competition with Qatar, the world’s largest LNG exporter.

“The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline – if it’s ever built – would solidify a predominantly Shi’ite axis through an economic, steel umbilical cord,” wrote Asia Times correspondent Pepe Escobar.

Global Research, a Canada-based think tank, goes further to suggest that Assad’s refusal in 2009 to allow Qatar to construct a gas pipeline from its North Field through Syria and on to Turkey and the EU, combined with the 2011 pipeline deal, “ignited the full-scale Saudi and Qatari assault on Assad’s power.”

“Today the US-backed wars in Ukraine and in Syria are but two fronts in the same strategic war to cripple Russia and China and to rupture any Eurasian counter-pole to a US-controlled New World Order. In each, control of energy pipelines, this time primarily of natural gas pipelines—from Russia to the EU via Ukraine and from Iran and Syria to the EU via Syria—is the strategic goal,” Global Research wrote in an Oct. 26 post.

 

Poking the Russian bear

How does Russia play into the oil price drop? As a key ally of Syria, supplying Assad with billions in weaponry, President Vladimir Putin has, along with Iran, found himself targeted by the House of Saud. Putin’s territorial ambitions in the Ukraine have also put him at odds with US President Barack Obama and leaders of the EU, which in May of this year imposed a set of sanctions on Russia.

As has been noted, Saudi Arabia’s manipulation of the oil price has twice targeted Russia. This time, the effects of a low price have hit Moscow especially hard due to sanctions already in place combined with the low ruble. Last week, in an effort to defend its currency, the Bank of Russia raised interest rates to 17 percent. The measure failed, with the ruble dropping another 20 percent, leading to speculation the country could impose capital controls. Meanwhile, Putin took the opportunity in his annual televised address to announce that while the economy is likely to suffer for the next two years and that Russians should brace for a recession, “Our economy will get diversified and oil prices will go back up.”

He may be right, but what will the effect be on Russia of a sustained period of low oil prices? Eric Reguly, writing in The Globe and Mail last Saturday, points out that with foreign exchange reserves at around $400 billion, the Russian state is “in no danger of collapse” even in the event of a deep recession. Reguly predicts the greater threat is to the Russian private sector, which has a debt overhang of some $700 billion.

“This month alone, $30-billion of that amount must be repaid, with another $100-billion coming due next year. The problem is made worse by the economic sanctions, which have made it all but impossible for Russian companies to finance themselves in Western markets,” he writes.

 

Will it work?

Whether one is a conspiracy theorist or a market theorist, in explaining the oil price drop, it really matters little, for the effect is surely more important than the cause. Putin has already shown himself to be a master player in the chess game of energy politics, so the suggestion that sub-$60 oil will crush the Russian leader has to be met with a healthy degree of skepticism.

Moscow’s decision on Dec. 1 to drop the $45-billion South Stream natural gas pipeline project in favor of a new pipeline deal with Turkey shows Putin’s willingness to circumvent European partners to continue deliveries of natural gas to European countries that depend heavily on Russia for its energy requirements. The deal also puts Turkey squarely in the Russian energy camp at a time when Russia has been alienated by the West.

Of course, the Russian dalliance with China is a key part of Putin’s great Eastern pivot that will keep stoking demand for Russian gas even as the Saudis and OPEC, perhaps with US collusion, keep pumping to hold down the price. The November agreement, that would see Gazprom supply Chinese state oil company CNPC with 30 billion cubic meters of gas per year, builds on an earlier deal to sell China 38 bcm annually in an agreement valued at $400 billion.

As Oilprice.com commented on Sunday, “ongoing projects are soldiering on and Russian oil output is projected to remain unchanged into 2015.”

“Russia will go down with the ship before ceding market share – especially in Asia, where Putin reaffirmed the pivot is real. Saudi Arabia and North America will have to keep pumping as Putin plans to uphold his end in this game of brinksmanship.”

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Friday, February 10, 2012

What Role for Indian Think Tanks? - By Bhaskar Menon - http://undiplomatictimes.blogspot.in/

Bhaskar Menon has written a very thought-provoking and historical article that is a grave warning and a call for review of all that is going on in India in the name of progress, development, modernity and security. Foreign funds are not only flooding the corporate world, but are taking on our entire thinking faculties as a proud, independent and old civilisation that was toast of the world. The sectors that were starved of funding during the earlier Congress clamping down of India, have suddenly rushed to devour whatever crumbs are thrown at them, without even a shade of reflection as to where are we heading. Bhaskar Menon deserves great honour for having the courage and insight to bring out the calamitous slide of the nation into a quagmire that will not give us any chance for a free existence for another millennium. Saner elements should band together and expose all those carpetbaggers, opportunists and self-seekers who are willing to sell the nation, for a few pieces of silver.

Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai
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An Indian view of the world

What Role for Indian Think Tanks?

By Bhaskar Menon

Wednesday, February 8, 2012

According to an Edit Page article in The New Indian Express on 6 February, a global ranking of Think Tanks has found not one of India's 292 institutions good enough to be in the global top 30. In terms of number of TTs we rank third, behind the US with 1815 and China with 425,

The writer, Amitabh Mattoo, billed as a JNU professor and Director of the Australia India Institute at the University of Melbourne, admitted that the criteria used in the ranking had been widely criticized, but nevertheless, urged remedial action by the government to avoid a “mushrooming” of American and European franchises with Indians as “junior partners.” His “guesstimate” was that some 50 percent of projects run by Indian Think Tanks were already funded from abroad.

Mattoo saw three factors as most responsible for the weakness of Indian Think Tanks: lack of adequate and steady funding, government suspicion of “truly independent” organizations, and the tendency of “idealistic founders” to become “feudal patrons.”


To deal with the situation, he urged the government to create four new TTs, each with an endowment of Rs. 1000 crore, dealing with Economics; Security; Politics/Governance; and Social Change. He recommended that they be given unconstrained “freedom to hire the best global talent to work on critical areas of policy” and work without “interference.”


Strangely for a piece titled
Unthinking Think Tanks,” Mattoo said not a word about the quality of thought that has emerged from Indian Think Tanks.

If he had looked at that issue, it might have become quickly apparent that pots of money will not help, and that the “best global talent” might make things worse. For the basic problem with Indian TTs is not lack of money or access to foreign talent; it is the hangdog "Bollywood" state of mind, reflecting the belief that our reality is second-class, that it gains meaning only from association with that of the West.


Remember NDTV's maddening crawler "India's 9/11" that disfigured its coverage of the 2009 attack on Mumbai? It was as if Indian loss of life and blood lacked authenticity without a Western reference.


That syndrome is widely evident in India, including in areas of marked success.


"Bollywood" has been followed by the equally silly (and confusing) Tollywood, Kollywood and Mollywood.

 "Silk" is "India's Marilyn Monroe."

The Jaipur Literary Festival is "India's Cannes."


Jug Suraiya is "India's Art Buchwald."


Indian cuisine, traditional fabrics and costumes are referred to as "ethnic." (This might be mere ignorance: the usage originated in the United States, where the non-ethnic default was WASP: White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant.)


If we look at more considered manifestations of thought, for instance, at the books that have come from our post-1947 political and corporate leaders, there is the same unquestioned kowtowing to the dominance of the West. Paranoia about American intentions in India does not qualify as evidence to the contrary; it is an attitude fostered by a political "Left" slavishly imitative of the British model.


The slavishness can be traced back to Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru's hugely influential attitudes to the West (and his fundamental differences with Mahatma Gandhi on that count). Perhaps the crux of his attitude was captured in his declaration to Gandhi during their 1928 exchange of letters: "You misjudge greatly, I think, the civilization of the West and attach too great importance to its many failings. ... I think that Western, or rather industrial civilization, is bound to conquer India."


Nehru's staggering presumption has become general today. The fact that industrial civilization has proved to be unsustainable and is in a state of terminal crisis has made hardly a dent on the views of Indian acolytes. For instance, former President Abdul Kalam's several books and numerous speeches present a vision of a "developed India" entirely in technological terms. He hardly ever mentions Gandhi's vision of how India could progress, and ignores the great problems that beset industrial development.


An ancillary to the worship of technology seems to be ignorance of Indian realities. Nandan Nilekani's "
Imagining India" is a good example of that phenomenon. Consider his explanation of why newly independent India was mistrustful of free-market economics: "Nehru saw Britain as a hard, repressive State, and the market-friendly systems it had established got tarred with the same brush." (Colonial rule, established and maintained with violence, grossly discriminatory towards Indian business, was "market-friendly"!!!) Other examples of ignorance are rife. At one point he refers to Sita's "Kush" as "the son of Vishnu."

I could give numerous other examples from a wide range of writers, but will desist for fear of boring the reader. The evidence is overwhelming that the Maya of the West has come to suffuse the disordered view of our thought leaders. We have not had since Gandhi a leader who comprehended clearly the challenges facing India.


To understand how Mattoo's hankering after the "best global talent" is rooted in post-colonial confusion, consider how ridiculous it is to have a global ranking of Think Tanks.


In the United States, Think Tanks are instruments of a variety of interest groups, making the arguments to be taken on board by legislative processes minutely overseen by political lobbyists. Chinese TTs are meant to facilitate, strengthen and on occasion hide the Communist Party’s brutal grip on power. In India, as Mattoo notes, TTs are founded by idealists who then become invested in keeping control of their creations and turn into “medieval patrons.”


Given those differences, what is the basis for comparison?


This is not to deny Mattoo's point that we stand in danger of a foreign takeover of our policy space.

But money and foreign talent are not an appropriate response to that danger.

Indian reality, more than that of any other nation, is
sui generis. We Indians are its best judges.

Perhaps the way forward would be to reorient our Think Tanks so as to generate on every major policy issue, a national discourse rooted in an understanding of our post-colonial situation. The overall aim must be to understand contemporary global realities within the frame of India’s historical experience.


The difficulty in undertaking such an effort will lie in surmounting the enormous
distortions that colonial rule introduced in our understanding of Indian history. Perhaps a National Truth Commission about the colonial period, examining what the British did to India would be a good way to begin. Once the past is clear our policy options will clarify themselves.
 
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Saturday, July 10, 2010

Times of India does it right with Muslims this time – I - By Ghulam Muhammed

Sunday, July 11, 2010

Times of India does it right with Muslims this time – I

The Times of India has put its arch Muslim-baiter, Mohammed Wajihuddin to shift his focus from Masjids and Mullahs to Muslim professionals and Muslim progress in education field. Its full page Special Report, is gung-ho over how highly educated Muslim professionals, long shunted out of Indian Mainstream, are gradually seeping back into an expanding economic sector that just cannot afford to discriminate against right candidate, even with a Muslim name. The ‘Leap Talk’ organized by a group of Muslim NGOs to motivate Muslims towards opportunities opened up by the new emerging India, was not the first of its kind. But Times of India would rather concentrate on publishing sensational news about Fatwas and social inanities about Muslims, trying to prove as if other than Muslims, no other community in India has problems with KHAPS or crackdowns on women in general.

It is intriguing how after a full century, the old lady of Bori Bunder, had become aware of the existence of its most immediate neighbor, Anjuman e Islam, which was established about the same time as TOI and is now catering to over ‘100,000 students in 100 institutions’. Anjuman has diversified into establishing new professional education institutions, thanks to its benefactors like Haji Kalsekar, who has donated crores to construct new professional colleges. Anjuman is now more poised for future educational strides to parallel with India’s modern needs. It is no longer a favorite stepping stone for would be politicians, who were more interested in their own political careers than the careers of their students. One sincerely hopes that phase has lapsed.

Wajihuddin has traced Muslims through their existential migrations from 'crime' to gulf employment and now a return back home to participate in the exploding world of opportunities in the coming years, where communalism would and should take backseat. But it will take lot of doing by the movers and shakers of the new leaders in the corporate world to make real restitution of the community after more than 60 years of malign targeting. The Ambanis, Tatas, Godrej, Birla, Premjis and Singhanias, will have to clear up the cobwebs of their minds and start to look within if they can pick up the threads from where the State has left and accept Muslims as equal citizens, worthy of equal opportunity on meritocratic basis. The statistics cited by Wajihuddin, is bare minimum. The real expansion is not only in State enterprises, but in private sector too where the new investment is overwhelmingly routed. Thankfully the western investors themselves are legally bound to avoid any semblance of discrimination on the basis of religion, ethnicity or origin. The employment potential of the new expanded corporate economy has to find a new HRD mantra that lacked the earlier State stranglehold in socialistic pattern of managed economy. Communal politics messed in electoral politics sowed seeds of hatred in a nation that has survived with multiethnic tapestry underlining its polity for millenniums. The advent of mass politics and mass media has completely changed the terms of engagement between people. The nation of millions of mutinies got subverted to wage one single-faceted civil war. The whole continent is now suffering from those communally divisive policies and the very integrity and security of the Idea of India is now under serious threat. Media has great responsibility and potential to do right with the masses. To use their power to sow seeds of hatred and divide is the very antithesis of its noble profession.

Muslims who have read today’s Wajihuddin’s introduction to MUPPIES, are highly appreciative of his new focus on constructive role that media can play in the lives of people. In contrast with his 'groupie' journalism, he has found a more effective niche to highlight how Muslim community is coping with adverse conditions prevailing in their own country, thanks to the very media that was the medium of their constant demonization. The community will certainly welcome positive moves to acknowledge their potential in the wider polity and will look forward to both ideas and implementation that should go hand in hand.

Times of India has finally acknowledged the existence of the silent majority of Muslims who refused to become the fodder of divisive forces and are laboriously slogging to earn a better and dignified life among the comity of their pears in the land.

Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai
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Meet the Muppies

Mohammed Wajihuddin, TNN, Jul 11, 2010, 12.09am IST
Meet the Muppies
MUMBAI: Last week, a group of Muslim NGOs organized a motivational talk in a city hall for aspiring engineers, doctors and other professionals. It was called 'Leap Talk' and had half-a-dozen achievers — academics, technocrats, businessmen and bureaucrats — sharing their mantra of success with aspirational young people. "The hall was packed and we were surprised by the enthusiasm the Muslim youth showed to join the job market," says Farid Khan, one of the organizers. Surprising though it may sound, Muslim youth is increasingly motivated and career-conscious, defying the 1990s stereotype of being an angry, uneducated, unemployable and unemployed bunch. The communal and polarized atmosphere of the 1990s is a thing of the past. Instead of picketing thanas and staging protests, Maharashtra's Muslim youth are joining others on the highway to cushy jobs and a comfy life.

Imran Khan, 31, is managing director of the Rs 180-crore Western India Metal Processors Ltd. He recalls the jeers he and two Muslim classmates — actors Zayed Khan and Arif Khan — faced at a prestigious school in Mumbai. "Tum teen khan/Gadhe pe ho sawar aur jao Pakistan (You three Khans, ride an ass and go to Pakistan)," his classmates would say. When he finished school, Khan worked hard to turn the moribund family business into a multinational company. "Perhaps no Muslim child today has to suffer those humiliating remarks," he says, an unlikely victim in his smart clothes and with his swanky car.

Khan's parents did not allow him to head to a US university because he was "the only male child in my family" but he says he has not suffered from it. "In retrospect, I think I was lucky to stay back in India and be part of the inclusive growth the country has witnessed in the past few years." Khan is the stereotypical Muppie and Muslim upwardly mobile professionals are pushing the boundaries like never before. A decade ago, it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim woman scientist to work alongside non-Muslim men at the prestigious Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC). Today, Meher Tabassum, a scientific officer with the Centre's research and development wing, is a role model for many. "Muslims, especially girls, are looking beyond home science courses and making careers in pure science and technology. Globalization has opened limitless opportunities and Muslims too are grabbing them," says 36-year-old Tabassum, who has a gross salary of Rs 85,000 per month.

Clearly, today's young Muslims are dreaming of lives far removed from the cloistered, ghetto existence of yesteryears. Their dreams are being nurtured by Muslim-managed institutions such as the Anjuman-e-Islam in Mumbai. With more than 1,00,000 students in its 100 institutions, including colleges of catering, pharmacy, engineering and polytechnic, the Anjuman symbolizes Muppiedom or Muslim aspiration for educational and economic advancement.

The Anjuman's president Dr Zaheer Kazi is emphatic about the change. "This year one of our students topped the diploma engineering exams in Maharashtra while most of the toppers in various engineering branches are from our college." He adds, "Our engineering and catering students are getting 100% placement."

Armed with good degrees, Muslim youth are now knocking on the doors of public sector enterprises such as the Indian Railways and banks. Salim Alware, member of the standing committee on National Monitoring Committee for Minority Education (an HRD wing), sees a definite surge in Muslim interest in public sector jobs. "The underworld used to fascinate Muslim youth three decades ago. Then came the Gulf boom and many Muslims went to the Gulf. But now, as the charm of the Gulf has waned, many Muslims have turned to opportunities in the railways, banks and bureaucracy," says Alware who writes a column on careers for the Urdu daily Inquilab.

As education becomes a priority for young Muslims, more and more doors are opening to them. Shezan Ali Hemani, 18, cracked the IIT Joint Entrance Exam as well as MBBS entrance test this year. "I chose the latter as I always wanted to become a doctor," says Hemani whose father runs a successful shipping business. He wants to follow his own dreams. "My father turned stone into silver. I am trying to turn it into gold," he says.

These individual success stories are good news for the entire community. Salil Bubere, an international student counsellor who holds a degree in computer science from the University of Wales, chose to counsel students rather than becoming a computer engineer because "I love to help others find avenues of knowledge." About his non-Muslim sounding first name, Bubere, 25, says, "My father named me Salil, a common name among Hindus and Muslims, because he was worried about the discrimination in Indian society. He was needlessly worried. Our society has changed. The job market evaluates you on the basis of your qualification, not your religion."

This monsoon it's raining opportunities and Muslims too are grabbing them. if they need just a little push, career camps and sessions such as Leap Talk are steps in the right direction.

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Calistus (Kuwait)
11 Jul, 2010 11:07 AM
I wonder at times how they have finished their Graduation or higher studies when they can not talk proper english. Looks like they have purchased their certificates from some of the muslim universities in Hyderabad or its a fake certificate. But overall they ...
KVP (ND)
11 Jul, 2010 10:43 AM
I am happy that Muslims are helping themselves to develop and in turn developing the country. Lets ensure that the dirty agenda of any politicians dosent come in the way of the will and might of common man.
MAA (Bangalore) replies to KVP
11 Jul, 2010 11:05 AM
Bingo KVP, ur on the spot, keep politics away everything will be fine even if you blatantly follow your religion others will respect you, enter the politician your party is spoiled.Alas we cannot do without politicians, so we have to suffer and suspect everyone and make ours and others life hell. woe to the politician (All colours and outfits)
James (Mumbai)
11 Jul, 2010 10:39 AM
There were many Muslim boys and girls in the convent school I went to in the 70's. They weren't ridiculed any more than any other child was. Maybe that was because they didn't maintain a separate, in-your-face identity that the current day Muslims do, especially the girls with their 14th century outfits. When you stick out like a sore thumb, you are asking to be ridiculed. With all due respect to all, the Muslims in India ought to return to the pre-9/11 days, instead of living by the rules of the Taleban.
mohsin (indian muslim)
11 Jul, 2010 10:19 AM
There are millions like Maurya who suffers from an uncured disease called Hatred and Revenge. If you see people wearing saffron glass, everyone looks like a jaundice patient. Remove saffron glass and wear crystal clear glasses and see through people without bias and injustice. As President Obama's envoy said yesterday that 'All Indian muslims are not terrorist'.
Khurshid A .Khan (Darjeeling, India) replies to mohsin
11 Jul, 2010 10:38 AM
i agree to disagree with you my dear. No Muslim can ever be a terrorist. Those who blow up themselves in civilian areas with bombs round their chests do not adhere to the basic tenets of ISLAM(which does not allow indiscriminate killing). While one is allowed to wage a war against the army under certain conditions but even during that time, the non-combatant forces are not supposed to be subjugated to torture(forget about cold blooded murders as wesee in blasts).
zia (dubai)
11 Jul, 2010 10:19 AM
Indeed Muslims now are moving towards education and business, comparing to 80's, and now Muslim need to get rid of stereo type , uneducated, Muslim clerics, "maulvis"
DS (Mumbai) replies to zia
11 Jul, 2010 10:54 AM
I hope many more have thinking like you. It will do lot of good.
Maaurya (dubai)
11 Jul, 2010 10:15 AM
It happens only in india. All indians should understand that education and clear goals is only the key to open the doors of oppertunities be it a hindu,muslim,sikh or esayi. Very happy to read something diffrent about muslims in India other then the regular.
Mirza Mustafa Jamal (Jeddah Saudi Arabia) replies to Maaurya
11 Jul, 2010 10:58 AM
I appreciate your views Mr. Maaurya, Dubai. You are really an intelligent person with secular views. Do you know, the so called Mullahs are responsible for the downfall of Muslims and the education is the only way to overcome the situation? We all can only bring our country in the category of developed nation. Come let us continue to play our role ignoring a few like Mr. Maurya of Delhi. God bless you.
 
Puru (Mumbai)
11 Jul, 2010 10:15 AM
Good article and good to know Muslims have a diffrent approach too and not just the AL Quaida one.But one question that crosses my mind is why so mucch importance is given to Muslims in India when it is evident that Non Muslims in particular Hindus and Sikhs are isolated and mistreated in Peshawar,NWF province and most parts of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh, they are made to pay additional tax to survive.I am happy that Muslims In India are working in BARC and making a good life for them, would it be considered as being treating equal to charge Muslims in India a additional tax as non muslims pay in Islamic countries? Do these Muslims who feel offended that they get told to pack their bags and go and settle in Pakistan will ever have the courage to talk back to Islamist fundamentalists in Pakistan and ask them not to trouble the Hindus ther and give them a equality locus standing in business communities?
Abi (Riyadh) replies to Puru
11 Jul, 2010 11:05 AM
Mr. Puru there are millions of Hindus families are living in Gulf countries happily and they prefer to continue their children to live there than your dirty Mumbai.
Indian (Saudi) replies to Puru
11 Jul, 2010 10:50 AM
Name a single Gulf State who tax non-muslims when the remmit billions of dollar every year. Puru, you should travel to Saudi Arabia and see how Hindus celebrate Diwali and Holi within there compounds. My Hindu friends here are much happier than in India.
Mirza Mustafa Jamal (Jeddah Saudi Arabia)
11 Jul, 2010 10:05 AM
You are the agent of the enemies of India, who canâۉ„¢t see the development of India.and wish to create problem among the communities. More that 170 Million Muslims are the part of India and it is not possible to get maximum benefit of development without Muslims. Our ancestors were Hindus but after the rise of Islam, they accepted Islam. I never talk in term of communities but love all. Do you know, number of non Muslims terrorist groups in India is much more than Muslim group. How you forget Naxalbadi, Maoist, Mr. Kolkata?
Maurya (Delhi)
11 Jul, 2010 10:03 AM
Look at the Muslim women on the pictures dressed like Arabs. Make no mistake, this is the new face of Jihadi Islam. A Political modern facade to fool the civil society. They talk and act modern(like Zakir Naik) and talk against imperialism etc...But if you dig deeper you will find that they are all Al Qaeda leaning pan islamist. Be careful.....VERY CAREFUL.
riz (dxb) replies to Maurya
11 Jul, 2010 10:59 AM
u must be afraid,Very afraid, by the size and visual you have created; it must make u go back to your home and lock door and start ringing some bells.
HUSSAINE (Hyderabad) replies to Maurya
11 Jul, 2010 10:46 AM
SMELL OF ABHINAV BHARATH... ANOTHER TERRORIST IDENTIFIED... THANKS TOI. CBI WILL FOLLOW YOU MAURYA... LOL
Shakeel (Dammam/Saudi Arabia) replies to Maurya
11 Jul, 2010 10:36 AM
You are mentally sick person.
MOHAN (KUWAIT)
11 Jul, 2010 09:56 AM
ITS NOT JUST ABOUT MUSLIMS/HINDUS/CHRISTIANS... ITS ABOUT INDIANS IF YOU AIM FOR A STAR, YOU SHOOT A MOON,ACHIEVEMENT COMES WITH HARD WORK AND A LITTLE PRAYER. IT DOES BOTHER WHO YOU REALLY ARE, WHERE YOU ARE FROM.....
Venkat S (India)
11 Jul, 2010 09:38 AM
I have been fortunate to work in Islamic countries (UAE/Syria/Egypt/ Oman/Iran/Kazakhstan to name) and in the past 20 years have known many many people in the course of my work. Have visited Pakistan too on work. The majority are honest, law abiding and good human beings. Unfortunately, it is the vocal minority thats gets coverage. India is always regarded with respect in these countries and so India should set an example to the world in tolerance and respect for fellow human beings no matter which religion/caste they belong to. There has been no better time to do this than now. After all, every human being (few exceptions) wants a peaceful and happy life for himself/herself and for the loved ones and does not want to discriminated against for reasons of religion or caste. If this can be acheived, peace will largely prevail and the vocal minority will just remain that - vocal minority. I have known a number of muslim colleagues (some of whom are my very good friends) who are very intelligent and as ambitious as any other person. They love their country and families and only want the best for them - just like every body else. It is media's creation that every muslim wants to bring about destruction and mayhem. And the developed countries which kick up the theory of muslim take over. They are so ill informed with no first hand knowledge. We are all humans and I hope and pray for a time when future generations can co-exist in peace. Life and the World are too b'ful.
Abi (Riyadh) replies to Venkat S
11 Jul, 2010 10:56 AM
I totally agree with Mr. Venkat, who wrote the truth from his experience of 20 years of living along with Muslims. Great, appreciate your effortsâ€Â¦Ãƒ¢Ã¢‚¬Ã‚¦
Anil Kumar (Qatar) replies to Venkat S
11 Jul, 2010 10:28 AM
I too work in a gulf contry to support my family back home, I agree with Mr. Venkat.
RS (Manila) replies to Venkat S
11 Jul, 2010 10:14 AM
True, it's the "media's creation"
r@j!v (Kolkata, Bharat)
11 Jul, 2010 09:06 AM
muslims living in India are now cultivating science, wow...earlier they used talwar(sword) for hooliganism, now they will manufacture bomb in the laboratory to kill the kafirs(Hindu,Sikh).
farhan (boston) replies to r@j!v
11 Jul, 2010 09:39 AM
dude do u know how many muslim presidents India had? Go read the books...Who gave India the nulceaar bomb? Dr Abdul Kalam..ignorant fool..wake up and smell the coffee..
sambit (Mumbai) replies to farhan
11 Jul, 2010 10:23 AM
Nice slap on the Stupid Rajiv's face..This guy is uneducated and bears an ugly communal mind..
Madhwa (USA) replies to farhan
11 Jul, 2010 10:05 AM
Moron, Abdul Kalam has nothing to do with the Nuclear bomb? Ever heard of Dr.Home Bbaba, Dr.Raja Ramanna et al? Abdul Kalam is just a bachelor's in aerospace engg from a 3rd grade university! How can he be a nuclear scientist?
Anil Kumar (Qatar) replies to Madhwa
11 Jul, 2010 10:34 AM
I suppose you people are educated and enjoying the life in the cool surroundings of office somewhre in USA. But it looks your so called education is still not completed. How you can fight like these. One is claiming APJ is a nuclear man while other complaining about his 3rd grade. Sure, You need to learn a lot from your mother (if at all...)
Mirza Mustafa Jamal (Jeddah) replies to Anil Kumar
11 Jul, 2010 11:06 AM
What a nice comment.Yes, some of the educated people still need to refresh their mind.Indirectly, scuh type of people are pulling India back.
Tukaram (Mumbai) replies to Madhwa
11 Jul, 2010 10:33 AM
yes dude now these fellows have double plan. On one side try to educate a part of Muslims and attain imp jobs and positions and on other hand attack and kill through Talibani Muslims and then take over India !
PK (US)
11 Jul, 2010 08:58 AM
Its about Time that we call them Indian Youth than to put emphasis on Muslim. Maulana Abul Kalam Azad was the first Education Minister in Free India, and Sir Sayyad Ahmad Khan preceded him as a great educator establishing Aligarh University in British India. Its a gross injustice to the youth of a particular group to be singled out as trouble makers. The responsibility entirely rests on the exploitative and power monger leaders of communities who for personal gain ruin the minds and lives of its youth by isolative preachings and divisive propaganda. Muslim leaders are the most guilty of this. It is obvious that if it wasn't for the divisiveness the country would have progressed enormously, and all would have enjoyed the progress. Those who think that only a privileged few benefit they should look at the Communist China, Democratic England, and U.S. to find that it is universal regardless of Political System. However, the majority benefits. Just look at Pakistan, its a Muslim Country, yet its divisive tendencies have left it in political and economic ruins, besides social chaos.
ProudIndianMuslim (Doha) replies to PK
11 Jul, 2010 10:49 AM
Brother I don't know about everyone but I m feeling proud if somebody calls me indian and I feel extremely proud if some1 calls me Indian muslim..I m not ashame of being muslim it is my identity..and it will remain..if I will grow my identity of being indian muslim will grow..and if I will do bad work my identity of being indian muslim will also suffer..
Anil Kotwal (Adelaide)
11 Jul, 2010 08:43 AM
This is truly painting positive picture. One only wishes more such Muslim women and men can step out becoming model citizens, contributing to the might of the country.
Rajesh (Toronto)
11 Jul, 2010 08:35 AM
This article is very misleading. The reality is, Indian muslims were always a part of the mainstream society, as any other community in India. There are numerous examples, be it politics, R
Gowtham (Hyderabad)
11 Jul, 2010 08:08 AM
So nice to read. TOI should publish, sorry, the Indian media should carry such news on their first pages to encourage some misguided souls.
Mehul Joshi (Sydney,Australia)
11 Jul, 2010 08:02 AM
Itâۉ„¢s good start for Muslim youth to think in right direction. References about discrimination in the article which may be real but solution for this is Muslim communityâۉ„¢s responsibility as they created it(disrespect to other religions). Not looking in past, I appreciate effort by these young MUSLIM INDIANs to awake and participate in Indiaâۉ„¢s growth. India provides a perfect opportunity for these hardworking people as a secular country with biggest democracy and non aggressive majority Hindus providing them the best platform.
Ravi (Pune)
11 Jul, 2010 07:49 AM
It is encouraging to hear that this community is advancing professionally too. They are Indians first. This is what needs to be drummed into every Indian.
s. prakash (ranchi)
11 Jul, 2010 07:45 AM
I hope this is the right path. Indian Muslims' salvation is in joining the main stream and become part of it. Begging for quota and supporting opportunistic parties like SP, RJD and Congress will not help them. As we say - Your destiny is in your hands.
Sudhakar (Taiwan)
11 Jul, 2010 07:31 AM
Muslim community was always forward looking. We had muslim girl classmates in early sixties working sideby side boys without any of these burkhas and even participating in complex experiments involving three or four boys and girls. We even had a Moulvi's son in the class. If the Muslims were not so forward looking how would we have two as a Presidents and lady mninisters. Indian society is all inclusive. If some people are made to be exclusive and made backward by some self interested establishments how can the society help. I hope that the youth in Kashmir also take these as roll models and progress on the path of development of the state so rich in natural beauty and resource.
Abdul Latheef (Bangalore)
11 Jul, 2010 07:24 AM
Proud to be an Indian Muslim, Hurray, a great news indeed, May the almighty shower success and happiness to all the brothers and sisters, In bangalore too we find lot of changes, just focus on development, Politicians wants to divide the country for their own, by providing shelter to anti social. I strongly think that our country is united. ( who knows to dumb the bhopal waste in indore, the communal violence is created.) might be it is legally or illegally, again the tool is communal violence. Leap talk team- congrats and with best wishes
Ranga Valiveti (Eluru)
11 Jul, 2010 06:50 AM
One of the topmost rankers in the Andhra Pradesh engineering
Rafiq (Canada)
11 Jul, 2010 06:33 AM
"Surprising though it may sound, Muslim youth is increasingly motivated and career-conscious, defying the 1990s stereotype of being an angry, uneducated, unemployable and unemployed bunch. The communal and polarized atmosphere of the 1990s is a thing of the past. Instead of picketing thanas and staging protests, Maharashtra's Muslim youth are joining others on the highway to cushy jobs and a comfy life. "
Shashi (Haridwar)
11 Jul, 2010 04:32 AM
It is a good report. Things are bound to change when there is work and future for everyone as it is now happeningin India. One little realized positive thing for the Muslim community in India is it is largely urban based and therefore have much better chances of making best of educational facilities compared to rural folks. What is needed is to make sure everyone has opportunity to get quality education.
Sameer (Bangalore)
11 Jul, 2010 04:28 AM
Good article. Keep up the good work Mr. Wajihuddin. I hope your article also shows up in Urdu media.
Concerend (Melbourne)
11 Jul, 2010 04:06 AM
Your comment
Kiran (USA)
11 Jul, 2010 04:05 AM
What's wrong with Muslims celebrating if Pakistan wins against India? Indian Muslims considers Pakistanis as their brothers. We have to look at how Indians(Hindus) in UK support India against England. They even taunt British players at practice session.
ProudIndianMuslim (Doha) replies to Kiran
11 Jul, 2010 10:08 AM
Who says,,Indian Muslim supports pakis when they play against india..brother look into reality Indian muslims are as loyal and patriot as any other indian youth..we contribute everywhere we can..take it medical, engineering, science or sports..dont forget there are lots of Muslim cricketers who r playing for india..just take this thing out of ur mind that we dont support india..yes every muslim is brother of every other muslim that is true but similarly every human is also brother of every other human..we all belong to same gene..and on top of that every indian is brother of every other indian..instead f having misconception lets be united...
Gopal (Muscat) replies to Kiran
11 Jul, 2010 08:48 AM
loyalty, love for one's own country/roots is or should be similar to the emotion one feels to his or her mother. There is no rationality involved .It is simply an unquestioned and unexplainable emotional bond irrespective of religious background. A change of passport change it. That is why a vast majority of muslims in India root for India and UK citizens of Indian origin ( of all shades of religions ) support India.People like Mr. Khalid are the real INDIANS and patriots!!
Khalid Waheed (Illinois, USA) replies to Kiran
11 Jul, 2010 05:22 AM
I don't think religion should matter when it comes to sports. Why should Indian muslims celebrate if Pakistan wins? When they don't treat their own muslim brothers well back there in Pakistan, and keep killing each other, why should we even consider supporting them? A few communal hindus like Modi aside, I believe the majority of hindus are the most tolerant people you could find anywhere. We, Indian muslims, are far better here than we would ever have been in Pakistan, trust me! So, we should join hands with our hindu brothers in celebrating whatever India achieves, whether it be in sports, or anywhere. Afterall, this is as much our country as theirs.
Sri (Silverlake) replies to Khalid Waheed
11 Jul, 2010 06:31 AM
Thank you Khalid. Indian muslims and Hindus are in this together as brothers and sisters. Together we can make our country like no other. An example for the rest of the world. Yes - Indian muslims are Indian first and Hindus should come first for them. Similarly, Hindus should never sell out their muslim brethren with others. We can fight among oursleves, criticize each other but it should all be within the family.
humrah (canada) replies to Khalid Waheed
11 Jul, 2010 06:00 AM
Cradling body of newborn, man in Srinagar hospital waits for a curfew pass to go home
Mahesh (Buena Park) replies to Kiran
11 Jul, 2010 04:59 AM
A muslim of India is Indian first and Muslim later.If Pakistani muslims are their brothers then what are Indian hindus?
dinesh kumar (mumbai)
11 Jul, 2010 03:56 AM
Good show guys. Keep the flag flying and there is no dearth of jobs in our own country.
hari (phoenix)
11 Jul, 2010 03:42 AM
this is nice to know...now i sincerely request the govt to not provide reservation and destroy the competitive spirit which is bringing up this community ...
GK (London)
11 Jul, 2010 03:33 AM
Well began is half done. Many who do well both academically and on the professional job sectors would still listen to those queers in mosques every Friday.
Anthonie (Lebanon) replies to GK
11 Jul, 2010 10:26 AM
Wow, what a shallow response ! Friday talks are based on topics like encouragement of brotherhood amongst people , the need for charity and giving back to the society and the likes âۉ€Å“ Fyi . I live in an Arab country and although I am not a muslim, I still catch on the Friday sermons which are equivalent Moral Science classes (heard of those , or were you too busy being an idiot back then as well?)
AK (UK) replies to GK
11 Jul, 2010 03:56 AM
So do you want them to Listen to your RSS or Bajrang Dal or Sri Ram Sena or Christian Missionaries? Have you ever heard what is being taught every friday? You guys will never change because you don't want to. Hope you get well soon.
GK replies to AK
11 Jul, 2010 05:27 AM
Thank you Dr. Z(AK)IR for the prescription. If I should learn what's being taught on a Friday, would you pls be kind enough to say if your class is 'segregated' or not?
Indian (Abroad) replies to GK
11 Jul, 2010 07:49 AM
I think that is the only thing you are worried about GK. "A segregated class room."
Nayyar Siddiki (US)
11 Jul, 2010 03:12 AM
I am proud of you folks, keep up the good work and serve the nation and community you come from.
kafir (dar es salaam)
11 Jul, 2010 02:40 AM
Very good news to hear. Hope we hear more such. I do feel Indian Muslims face discrimination subtly and also directly. Many companies do have a unwritten rule not to employ Muslims
Nitya (chennai) replies to kafir
11 Jul, 2010 02:57 AM
This is the problem with you people, if these youths being muslims can work hard and come up in life, why can't the others. Don't expect to be spoon-fed all the time, India has more opportunities to people of minority religions than any other country, and all you do is moan. Do some work on your own and then come up in life.
Sheik (Malaysia) replies to Nitya
11 Jul, 2010 04:04 AM
if you see the people who spoke ere, all have parents who are well to do.There are thousands and thousands of poor family battling for food for once in a day. We need the upliftment those.
sri (silverlake) replies to Sheik
11 Jul, 2010 06:33 AM
That is true for Hindus too.
price (Europe)
11 Jul, 2010 02:20 AM
well done folks, now take this Initiative to other rural and backward areas there is no shortage of talent and educatin what they really want is guidance and I hope this will go a long way ,Insha allah....................
Kirtikar (USA)
11 Jul, 2010 02:03 AM
This is such refresshing news. This kind of optimism was long overdue sixty years after independence. Congratulations to the organizers and my best wishes to the young boys and girls.
dr jalal (ksa)
11 Jul, 2010 01:59 AM
it is very true that muslim youths specially girls are working hard to achieve success in the field of science and technology.i am a proud father of daughter who had successfully competed for junior research felloship at ACTREC this year.Muslim youths both boys and girls need more guidance and motivation from muslim NGOs, educationists and technocrats.
Heming (UK)
11 Jul, 2010 01:50 AM
Such a fantastic news. I am a Hindu and I still congratulate these boys and girls. This clearly shows that India is a secular country. I hope these people will support India in every walk of life and will not celebrate when Pakistan wins against India in cricket. We should also ask how many Hindus are at this level in Pakistan?
AK (UK) replies to Heming
11 Jul, 2010 04:02 AM
I had an oppurtunity to study with a Hindu Bangladeshi boy. He used to rejoice everytime India wins even against his own country. Will you go and ask him how his fellow country men feel about it? I guess you will never complain about this.
Sri (silverlake) replies to AK
11 Jul, 2010 06:36 AM
But Hindus have been butchered and discriminated in Bangladesh. They have been forcibly converetd and their lands taken away. They are afraid even to claim that they are Hindus for fear. Muslims are not treated that way in India.
latif (Bangalore) replies to Heming
11 Jul, 2010 02:38 AM
Good to see your comment focussed on the development of the country.
Saquib Haroon (Saskatoon, Canada) replies to Heming
11 Jul, 2010 02:24 AM
I really do not understand why this question is being raised to Muslim youths when Pakistan is of no relevance to them and why after 60 years of independence they have to answer for whats's happening in Pakistan which is neither thir country nor their concern . I suggest if somebody has to ask this question he should go and ask the Gov. Of Pakistan rather than any Indian whether Muslim or hindu.
Kirtikar (USA) replies to Saquib Haroon
11 Jul, 2010 02:51 AM
Well said Mr. Haroon.
Vizier (Pune) replies to Heming
11 Jul, 2010 02:22 AM
its not all muslim celebrate when pakistan, they are very few in number, out of 1000 maybe 5, but those crackers are heard far far away and all 1000 are blame for it. I hope that other should stop them, I think India is a far far better country then pakistan, yes there are some politician who want some personal gain and they create divide on religion, but they are also going away. I hope we become a better country if we don't to them.
SAUD3DK (QATAR)
11 Jul, 2010 01:33 AM
SIR
rajdib (delhi) replies to SAUD3DK
11 Jul, 2010 02:35 AM
I am sure this one called SAUD3DK has problem with this too....this kind of people are always against muslim people who has a dream to have a good career. Thanks TOI to remove his comment.